We had a small class today, but we still worked on hints for sources. We looked at three different ways to find sources.
First:
On the Pedigree chart page, the symbol for Hints is the light blue color. Click on the icon and it will show you the list of hints. We found our example person had three hints. The first one was for the 1900 US census. I checked in my RootsMagic file and saw that I had already found this source in Ancestry, but it had not been added to FamilySearch.
Since it was a correct source that we wanted to add, we clicked on the name in the hint, which is blue. That opened the information page about that source. Looking at it, we could see that it was indeed the same record that I had previously found.
So, we clicked on Review and Attach. The page that then opened had the information from the record on the left and the information currently in FamilySearch on the right.
We compared each line and made sure that what we wanted to show up in FS was moved to that side of the page.
We added a reason why this source was correct. In this case, it was pretty clear that it was correct, so our message just said, "Names, ages, location match other known information."
Finally, we hit the Attach button.
We were also able to add the same document to other individuals who were mentioned in the source. We just followed the same procedure.
If the source had not been correct, we would have clicked on Not a Match and put the reason that it was not a match.
Second:
We went into the Person Page. The Hints are at the top of the right hand column. Only three hints show at a time, but more will appear as one is attached and removed from the list. To see the full list, click on See Details.
The procedure for adding a source from the Person page is exactly the same as from the pedigree chart page.
Third:
There was a hint about FindAGrave. Instead of accessing it through the hint option, we decided to search for it. We learned some interesting things. We knew that the FindAGrave link was there, but when it didn't appear, we had to search for it.
The search box is under the hint box. Click on which website you wish to search. All the hints are from records that are on FamilySearch, so we clicked on FamilySearch to look for this grave record.
As we scrolled down the list, there was no FindAGrave listing at all. In our example, we were working with a female name, so in the search criteria on the left, we changed the maiden name to the married name.
The second search still did not bring up what we were looking for, although we found a lot of new sources. We then added a death date and place and tried the search again. This time the FindAGrave source was at the top of the list. We were able to add this source exactly the same as we had added the other sources.
It is important to try different combinations of information when doing a search. Had we not known the source was there because of the hint, and if we had only done the first search, we would not have found what we wanted. By trying different things, we were able to find additional records.
FindAGrave:
We took a few minutes and looked at the site since we were there anyway. Not all of the memorials have pictures of the grave stone, although that is their goal. The biography and links information on the first page is only as reliable as the person who added it. Use it for hints, but there are a lot of errors, so don't just accept it as true. If there is a picture, though, it can be a wonderful chance to see the stone without having to travel great distances.
NEXT WEEK:
There will not be a class next week, because of the Relief Society Visiting Teaching Conference, which will take the last two hours.
Monday, April 18, 2016
Friday, April 15, 2016
April 10, 2016 - Person Page: Marriage Relationships/Child Relationships; Linking Ancestry.com and FamilySearch
We did a quick review of what we had worked on last week. I also shared a couple of things that I worked on during the week.
First, on the example we used last week, I did not think that John Wilmot was the correct father for my Eli, even though that is what shows in FS. So I did a little research. I was able to find the marriage of my Eli in Georgia in 1829. I also found a marriage for another Eli Wilmot in Connecticut in 1828. It is not likely that they are the same person. It puts further weight to my argument, since the birth record of Eli that shows John as the father occurred in CT. I still have not found a birth or early record for my Eli in NY, so I did not change the Family Tree. However, I did add a note in the Note section explaining what I had found and my opinion.
Secondly, I brought the Watch List email that I got this week. There were five names listed, on three of which I had made the changes. The other two I had looked up to see the change. In one case, sources had been added and I found that I already had those sources. I also had additional sources, so I spent a little time adding those sources to FS, as well.
In our example for our lesson, there was a hint that there was a non-standardized marriage place, so that is where we started. To work on a marriage relationship, go to the Family section of the Person page. To the right of the name of the husband and wife is a symbol that looks like a pencil and a pad of paper. Click on that. The pop-up page shows a section for the husband, a section for the wife, a section for marriage events, and a section for sources. We were interested in the Marriage Events section. We discovered that there were a number of dates/places listed, all of them the same basic information. Since they were all the same, and we only needed to have one, we deleted the extras.
To delete a Marriage Event:
Click on the Event
Click on Delete at the right of the box
Enter a reason for deleting. In our case, we just put "Duplicate entry."
Click the Delete button.
On the one date/place left, we needed to standardize the date and place. This was done just like we did the birth and death dates last time. Click Edit, enter the date or place, choose the correct entry from the standardized list, add a reason (standardized date and place), save.
The same process works for child/parent relationships. Click on the pencil symbol by the child, edit Father, Mother, and Child as needed. Use the Remove option to undo the link between child and parents. Remember that there are three links: husband to wife, child to mother, child to father. To get the spouse and child relationships correct, all three must be linked properly.
We then went to Ancestry.com and found our example on my family tree there. In Ancestry, the tree opens on the pedigree page. We found the person we wanted, clicked on the name, and then on Profile. That brings us to his personal information page. Since we were interested in linking to FS from Ancestry, we did the following:
Click on the tree looking symbol next to the word "search" in the upper right side of the page.
Sign in to FamilySearch
When linked, a blue check mark appears next to the tree symbol.
Click the tree symbol again.
Click on Compare Person on Family Search
Choose the person that matches
You then have two columns: FS information is on the left and Ancestry information is on the right.
You can compare line by line.
You can click on any piece of information that you want to add either way (FS to Ancestry or Ancestry
to FS).
Be sure that the information is correct. It is very easy to move information from one place to another by
making an assumption - that can get you in big trouble. I check what I have in RootsMagic first,
since that is the only source I have confidence in.
When finished, click on Save Changes at the bottom of the page.
I think that covers most of what we did. Next week I said we would start on actually searching for documents. Unless I change my mind, of course! You never know what I might do next!!
First, on the example we used last week, I did not think that John Wilmot was the correct father for my Eli, even though that is what shows in FS. So I did a little research. I was able to find the marriage of my Eli in Georgia in 1829. I also found a marriage for another Eli Wilmot in Connecticut in 1828. It is not likely that they are the same person. It puts further weight to my argument, since the birth record of Eli that shows John as the father occurred in CT. I still have not found a birth or early record for my Eli in NY, so I did not change the Family Tree. However, I did add a note in the Note section explaining what I had found and my opinion.
Secondly, I brought the Watch List email that I got this week. There were five names listed, on three of which I had made the changes. The other two I had looked up to see the change. In one case, sources had been added and I found that I already had those sources. I also had additional sources, so I spent a little time adding those sources to FS, as well.
In our example for our lesson, there was a hint that there was a non-standardized marriage place, so that is where we started. To work on a marriage relationship, go to the Family section of the Person page. To the right of the name of the husband and wife is a symbol that looks like a pencil and a pad of paper. Click on that. The pop-up page shows a section for the husband, a section for the wife, a section for marriage events, and a section for sources. We were interested in the Marriage Events section. We discovered that there were a number of dates/places listed, all of them the same basic information. Since they were all the same, and we only needed to have one, we deleted the extras.
To delete a Marriage Event:
Click on the Event
Click on Delete at the right of the box
Enter a reason for deleting. In our case, we just put "Duplicate entry."
Click the Delete button.
On the one date/place left, we needed to standardize the date and place. This was done just like we did the birth and death dates last time. Click Edit, enter the date or place, choose the correct entry from the standardized list, add a reason (standardized date and place), save.
The same process works for child/parent relationships. Click on the pencil symbol by the child, edit Father, Mother, and Child as needed. Use the Remove option to undo the link between child and parents. Remember that there are three links: husband to wife, child to mother, child to father. To get the spouse and child relationships correct, all three must be linked properly.
We then went to Ancestry.com and found our example on my family tree there. In Ancestry, the tree opens on the pedigree page. We found the person we wanted, clicked on the name, and then on Profile. That brings us to his personal information page. Since we were interested in linking to FS from Ancestry, we did the following:
Click on the tree looking symbol next to the word "search" in the upper right side of the page.
Sign in to FamilySearch
When linked, a blue check mark appears next to the tree symbol.
Click the tree symbol again.
Click on Compare Person on Family Search
Choose the person that matches
You then have two columns: FS information is on the left and Ancestry information is on the right.
You can compare line by line.
You can click on any piece of information that you want to add either way (FS to Ancestry or Ancestry
to FS).
Be sure that the information is correct. It is very easy to move information from one place to another by
making an assumption - that can get you in big trouble. I check what I have in RootsMagic first,
since that is the only source I have confidence in.
When finished, click on Save Changes at the bottom of the page.
I think that covers most of what we did. Next week I said we would start on actually searching for documents. Unless I change my mind, of course! You never know what I might do next!!
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